so, what if america did not let google or yahoo founders in? we would have lost a lot. so, since american politicians are not taking steps to change the rules to allow more entrepreneurs to come here to work, dario and max, my guests, have set out to build a ship and keep it off the coast of california outside the reach of immigration controls and foreign entrepreneurs could work here, is that the idea? >> that is correct. we are creating what we call a visa free technology incubator on a ship, 12 miles off the coast of the bay area. >> definitely miles escapes the rules of the united states. >>guest: it is outside the territorial waters. >> the idea is and you are from the silicon valley area, that you can come to america with a work visa and work three months or six months but you cannot stay so you have the four engineers on the boat and the silicon valley tech geniuses go back and for the and work with them? >>guest: when you come for a few months on tourist or work visas you cannot work, so there is no avenue where the entrepreneurs can come hour and create the com